OMEMO is _not_ optional!
"Keine Verschlüsselung ist auch keine Lösung."
@vimja If reliable E2EE is a strict requirement no matter what, I think you want to go for some closed silo such as WhatsApp or Signal or whatever. And maybe have another look at XMPP on iOS in, say, one or two years.
"Vendor lock-in ist auch keine Lösung." 🙂
@holger is there hope then, are there projects currently working on new / better solutions for XMPP on iOS?
@vimja Both Siskin and Monal are being actively developed, and both have seen great progress recently. There's still some issues, and OMEMO (esp. in groups) is one of those. But there's definitely hope 🙂
@holger Never heard of Monal before. Thanks, will check it out :)
It seems that #Siskin, which is arguably the least community-driven one is making the most progress. So let's put our hopes on that one. It's also making a priority of MIX adoption, which seems like a good thing to me.
@holger @mbirth @jamie @vimja Oh that's very assuring! You're sure you keep to your statement of coming back in 2 years, then? :)
Hmm, yeah #Monal always seemed the most promising to me, after ChatSecure somehow got abandoned (kinda before my time, I suppose). Curious to try out Monal later on my gf's iPhone!
@vimja I use chat secure I did not find anything better yet
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